Excerpts of Trina Ghedoni’s Statements to Investigator

Introduction:

Trina Ghedoni is the former wife of Thomas Grover.  The following are excerpts of statements to former FBI investigator James Abbott collected during his 2008 to 2011 investigation of the case against Fr. Gordon MacRae:

  • Trina Ghedoni met Thomas Grover a few years before the 1994 trial of Gordon MacRae.  They married in 1994.  During her marriage to Grover, and as a result of the 1994 trial, she became increasingly aware of issues and problems with his trial testimony and perjury.  This became a factor in her ultimate decision to divorce Thomas Grover.

  • During her four-year marriage to Grover while living in Prescott, Arizona, Ghedoni thought Grover “made up” the whole thing.  His attitude and demeanor after the trial and his sexual obsession with pre-teen and teenage girls led Ghedoni to question Grover’s truthfulness.  Grover would leave home sometimes for days at a time and go to a motel to view pornography all day.  He was caught by Ghedoni on two occasions having sex with his biological sisters on the Arizona Indian reservation where they relocated after Grover received his settlement.  She stated that Grover had a hole in a sheetrock wall where he hid pornography.  Ghedoni relates that Grover was a sexual addict.

  • Trina Ghedoni advised that her son, Charles Glenn, moved to Arizona with Trina and Tom in August of 1997.  Charles would “pump” Tom about his life.  Ghedoni stated that Charles at age 15-16 would not give her specifics but after the trial told her that Tom had “Bs’d” the whole thing “and everyone would be surprised to know what other things Tom did.”

  • Ghedoni stated that around 1988 Grover was interviewed by Detective McLaughlin but made no allegation that resulted in a charge.  In 1989 or 1990, when Grover was 22 or 23 and living in Manchester before accusing MacRae, he met a Dominic Martin and they became close friends and drinking buddies.  Martin had a girlfriend whose name Ghedoni could not recall.  Martin talked with Grover about setting up priests for money.  Of note, Dominic Martin was later convicted for extortion against a priest in neighboring Massachusetts in 2002.

  • Ghedoni advised that a therapist named Pauline Goupil consulted with Tom Grover every day of MacRae’s 1994 trial.  All Tom’s testimony or proposed testimony passed through Pauline Goupil who also tracked Tom’s medications during the trial.  Ghedoni advised that, pre-trial, Detective James McLaughlin would converse with Pauline Goupil who in turn would talk to Tom.  Ghedoni felt that Ms. Goupil was preparing and directing Tom at all times.

  • Trina Ghedoni described Thomas Grover as a “compulsive liar,” a “manipulator,” and a “drama queen,” who “molded stories to fit his needs [and] lied to get what he wanted.”  He is someone who can also “tell a lie and stick to it ’til its end.”

  • In 1994, Grover asked Ghedoni to marry him “because it would look better and, more importantly, he needed the security of a wife for the trial.”  During the entire time he and Ghedoni were together before this trial, “never once did Grover say he was abused by MacRae.”

  • Ghedoni stated that Thomas Grover was never abused, and that he stated several times that he was going to “get the church” for money.  She stated that Grover lied at trial about the presence of a chess set in MacRae’s office during abuse.  Grover reportedly admitted that this was perjury, but said “it was what they wanted.”  “They,” according to Ms. Ghedoni, referred to Detective James McLaughlin and Pauline Goupil.

  • Detective McLaughlin referred Tom Grover to his civil attorney, Robert Upton who provided Grover with multiple cash advances.  Grover claimed his lawsuit was necessary to get money for therapy, but once he received his cash in 1996, he never sought therapy again.  Ms. Ghedoni described Det. McLaughlin as “gung ho,” “very aggressive,” and compared him to the TV personality John Walsh.

  • Ghedoni reported that Pauline Goupil’s son had been convicted in 1989 as the notorious “West Side Rapist,” and went to prison but she learned this only after Grover had been in therapy with Ms. Goupil.

  • Ms. Ghedoni added that Grover could never give a consistent account of his claimed abuse.  Before the trial Grover befriended Dean Clay and they smoked “weed” together for long periods.  Dean Clay later attempted to testify for the defense but was denied by the judge.